JazzByTheBay
12-13 05:12 PM
I would rather have 10,000 members paying $100/year (that's *less than $25/month, btw... :) ), than 25,000 forum browsers... no offense meant.
For those comparing IV with free web-based services like Google/Yahoo/Hotmail/others.... you probably don't grasp the idea behind IV, and this is precisely one of the reasons why a membership-based organization is desirable... :
- IV is no gmail or hotmail
- We don't get advertising revenue,
- Nor have we gone IPO like Google/Microsoft/Yahoo (neither can we... :)
- Nor are we funded by wealthy VCs
- Nor is this a "business model"
- and Nor do Google/Microsoft/Yahoo care about your immigration woes... .
Bottomline - we're not a business, we're a non-profit organization - that needs funds for operations and lobbying efforts. There are normal operational needs that are taken care of by membership dues in most organizations. There are special one-time needs that are taken care of by funding drives.
So let's rise up above this madness...
Once again:
- If you've already contributed, you won't be asked again (fot a year at least... :)
- If you can't pay membership dues, you can volunteer
jazz
Highly skilled immigrants (highly paid professionals too) fretting about 25 USD per month and that too for a cause which directly affects their dignity, their professional career and in the long term their quest for a happy and fulfilling life.
Somebody also used the term 'commercialization' before even reading through IV's agenda which clearly includes the phrase 'Non profit organization'.
Aman Kapoor invested thousands of dollars to fight for this cause in terms of money and time, and yet some people flinch in horror at the thought of contributing 25 dollars per month.
As I have always said and will repeatedly say '10000 active and committed members are better than 25000 fence sitters/free loaders.'
For those comparing IV with free web-based services like Google/Yahoo/Hotmail/others.... you probably don't grasp the idea behind IV, and this is precisely one of the reasons why a membership-based organization is desirable... :
- IV is no gmail or hotmail
- We don't get advertising revenue,
- Nor have we gone IPO like Google/Microsoft/Yahoo (neither can we... :)
- Nor are we funded by wealthy VCs
- Nor is this a "business model"
- and Nor do Google/Microsoft/Yahoo care about your immigration woes... .
Bottomline - we're not a business, we're a non-profit organization - that needs funds for operations and lobbying efforts. There are normal operational needs that are taken care of by membership dues in most organizations. There are special one-time needs that are taken care of by funding drives.
So let's rise up above this madness...
Once again:
- If you've already contributed, you won't be asked again (fot a year at least... :)
- If you can't pay membership dues, you can volunteer
jazz
Highly skilled immigrants (highly paid professionals too) fretting about 25 USD per month and that too for a cause which directly affects their dignity, their professional career and in the long term their quest for a happy and fulfilling life.
Somebody also used the term 'commercialization' before even reading through IV's agenda which clearly includes the phrase 'Non profit organization'.
Aman Kapoor invested thousands of dollars to fight for this cause in terms of money and time, and yet some people flinch in horror at the thought of contributing 25 dollars per month.
As I have always said and will repeatedly say '10000 active and committed members are better than 25000 fence sitters/free loaders.'
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misanthrope
10-03 11:48 AM
Yes you called sleazy consultants..check your stmnt.
Ok, clearly you did not read what I wrote or you did not understand it. Here is what I wrote..
"Well, I don't think gctest is against EB3. He is against consultants from sleazy bodyshopping companies, which is right.". Some one left me a red saying "not all consultants from sleazy bodyshopping companies are incapable." I agree and I never said that. If I came across that way then I apologize.
Everybody is trying to survive in this world ..diff people react differently to same situation..lying on resume/achievements is not illegal(reason y no body is prosecuted because of this fact..they are simply denied that benefit) however its unethical ..but iam not here to preach ethics.
VERY valid point. But my question is, do you support it?
A fictional scenario to check whether you are ready to take advantage of a loop hole if its in your favour.( A nice quote on this -Everybody likes discrimination when its in their favour and they dont raise their voice then)
Yes, nice quote and very true too. But again, that is not the argument here.
My point to say all companies lie/manipulate things to certain extent..desi consultants atleast dont deprive lives like other BIG companies where shareholders are kept in dark until they realize that company is no more worth anything.
Comparing one wrong doing with another does not justify as an argument. It is actually a logical fallacy. In other words, 2 wrongs do not make a right. Try doing that in the court of law.
Iam not supporting any malpractises are anything anyways this is not a criminal thing its just immoral ..
Malpractices are criminal (if law is violated) but a corporation cannot be tried criminally because it cannot go to jail.:)
You may have noted that I did not bring up morality even though I wanted to because everyone has a different measuring stick for it.
however if theres a loop hole and people want to chance it its upto them. They will be appropriately denied if they are caught, However its not like they are killing anybody.
I totally agree with that. Also, I don't think they will be denied because they did not do anything wrong. System provides them with an option for doing so.
Finally what do you think when even govt is planning to make illegals legals ..its respecting peoples wishes against legal things(ofcourse they get benifitted)Humanity/compassion is number one..rules are for our well being ..they are not hard and fast.
That's a perspective and again 2 wrongs cannot make one right.
Check for your reputation here i think it says some thing.
Yes. It is stupidity by consensus.
Ok, clearly you did not read what I wrote or you did not understand it. Here is what I wrote..
"Well, I don't think gctest is against EB3. He is against consultants from sleazy bodyshopping companies, which is right.". Some one left me a red saying "not all consultants from sleazy bodyshopping companies are incapable." I agree and I never said that. If I came across that way then I apologize.
Everybody is trying to survive in this world ..diff people react differently to same situation..lying on resume/achievements is not illegal(reason y no body is prosecuted because of this fact..they are simply denied that benefit) however its unethical ..but iam not here to preach ethics.
VERY valid point. But my question is, do you support it?
A fictional scenario to check whether you are ready to take advantage of a loop hole if its in your favour.( A nice quote on this -Everybody likes discrimination when its in their favour and they dont raise their voice then)
Yes, nice quote and very true too. But again, that is not the argument here.
My point to say all companies lie/manipulate things to certain extent..desi consultants atleast dont deprive lives like other BIG companies where shareholders are kept in dark until they realize that company is no more worth anything.
Comparing one wrong doing with another does not justify as an argument. It is actually a logical fallacy. In other words, 2 wrongs do not make a right. Try doing that in the court of law.
Iam not supporting any malpractises are anything anyways this is not a criminal thing its just immoral ..
Malpractices are criminal (if law is violated) but a corporation cannot be tried criminally because it cannot go to jail.:)
You may have noted that I did not bring up morality even though I wanted to because everyone has a different measuring stick for it.
however if theres a loop hole and people want to chance it its upto them. They will be appropriately denied if they are caught, However its not like they are killing anybody.
I totally agree with that. Also, I don't think they will be denied because they did not do anything wrong. System provides them with an option for doing so.
Finally what do you think when even govt is planning to make illegals legals ..its respecting peoples wishes against legal things(ofcourse they get benifitted)Humanity/compassion is number one..rules are for our well being ..they are not hard and fast.
That's a perspective and again 2 wrongs cannot make one right.
Check for your reputation here i think it says some thing.
Yes. It is stupidity by consensus.
GC_1000Watt
01-08 06:16 PM
All the wasted numbers can be recaptured when recapture bill passes!!!!
Do you think it will happen in near future? I seriously dont think so.
Do you think it will happen in near future? I seriously dont think so.
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gc_bulgaria
11-09 09:36 PM
Using H1B makes one safe. but how many years we want to do the safe job. If I-485 gets denied do u have enough patiences to file another green card. One thing is believe is "We are here to make money, most of us are in our thirties and we have short time remaining to reach our goals. I think we all have one year EAD. wait for 6 months then go on job hopping, learn whatever you can, get into whatever you want. Start a business, do something.... Anything you do will help you in future. Sitting with H1B in pocket may take 4 years cream of your life.
If you have the talent you can get great salaries anywhere in the world. Because of your talents and hard work you guys are here. World is not small.
I will use EAD soon.
:-)
If something goes wrong, I move to Europe!
If you have the talent you can get great salaries anywhere in the world. Because of your talents and hard work you guys are here. World is not small.
I will use EAD soon.
:-)
If something goes wrong, I move to Europe!
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somegchuh
07-20 12:19 PM
Can you please provide more details on starting a part-time position and what are some of the complexities associated with it?
While I was waiting for GC, I finished MBA last year. I have a Masters degree in Comp. Sc. also. It has been 4 1/2 years with no clear indication regarding the LC alone. Hats off to the screwed up concept of BEC. If my LC is not processed in time, I might leave next year.
I am thinking of doing a part time job on H-1B also. If that pans out well, atleast I will forget the pain of GC for a while.
While I was waiting for GC, I finished MBA last year. I have a Masters degree in Comp. Sc. also. It has been 4 1/2 years with no clear indication regarding the LC alone. Hats off to the screwed up concept of BEC. If my LC is not processed in time, I might leave next year.
I am thinking of doing a part time job on H-1B also. If that pans out well, atleast I will forget the pain of GC for a while.
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a_paul1
04-02 08:41 PM
1. Employer gave documentary evidence of a valid job for the candidate to secure H1B visa. The question of calling or not calling the candidate to come to US does not arise. The employer, by petitioning USCIS, admited that he wants to employ the candidate in US. The candidate does not need any further letter to come to US. All the required documents are already with the candidate when he goes for stamping.
Hence, it is valid for the candidate to come to US by presenting documentation.
1.1 Exception: If the Employer proactively cancels the H1B that changes everything, which I believe is not the situation here. (The candidate wouldn't even be able to enter US in that case.). Unless, the H1B is canceled, the employer is on the hook and not the candidate.
2. Payment for visa by candidate is not fraud on the part of the candidate if he had no intention. Although ignorance of the law is almost never an excuse, this is a grey area really. The candidate might have paid to the employer and not to USCIS for the petition. The actual responsibility to not take payment lies with the employer. My opinion: Candidate will not be held liable for this.
3. If Employer fails to provide paystubs or fails to put him on payroll, he is on the hook. He is liable for full wages as long as he does not cancel H1b (unless the H1B is transferred of course). He is also liable to pay return fare to the candidate.
IMHO, the candidate is cool. No issue. Go ahead with your complaint to DOL. Good luck to you. Come back to work for a genuine employer with a new stamp.
Hence, it is valid for the candidate to come to US by presenting documentation.
1.1 Exception: If the Employer proactively cancels the H1B that changes everything, which I believe is not the situation here. (The candidate wouldn't even be able to enter US in that case.). Unless, the H1B is canceled, the employer is on the hook and not the candidate.
2. Payment for visa by candidate is not fraud on the part of the candidate if he had no intention. Although ignorance of the law is almost never an excuse, this is a grey area really. The candidate might have paid to the employer and not to USCIS for the petition. The actual responsibility to not take payment lies with the employer. My opinion: Candidate will not be held liable for this.
3. If Employer fails to provide paystubs or fails to put him on payroll, he is on the hook. He is liable for full wages as long as he does not cancel H1b (unless the H1B is transferred of course). He is also liable to pay return fare to the candidate.
IMHO, the candidate is cool. No issue. Go ahead with your complaint to DOL. Good luck to you. Come back to work for a genuine employer with a new stamp.
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gondalguru
07-19 11:22 PM
I submitted usps money orders for I-485 fees. Filed on july 2nd.
Any way to find out if those money orders are enchashed or no?
I did try google search and so far no answer.
Any way to find out if those money orders are enchashed or no?
I did try google search and so far no answer.
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sparky123
07-12 11:28 AM
Friends,
There is a rumor going around now. One of my colleagues here claims that he got a call from his attorney that there is going to be a new bulletin for july, released either tomorrow or on Monday. Can someone talk to their attorney and confirm this?
I'm unable to reach my attorney now.
There is a rumor going around now. One of my colleagues here claims that he got a call from his attorney that there is going to be a new bulletin for july, released either tomorrow or on Monday. Can someone talk to their attorney and confirm this?
I'm unable to reach my attorney now.
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satishku_2000
07-27 02:42 PM
My I-140 got approved even though my company also did not file 2006 Tax return. My company is a small(less than 30 employee) loss making company. Our company secretary just gave a letter that company has not filed tax return for 2006 and has asked for extension, attached request for extension. If you are meeting any one of the three criteria of the yates memo, there are very high chances of I-140 getting appoved. Search for yates memo and you will get more details. Is your current wages more than prevailing wages? If yes, then you will be fine. Your lawyer has do a very good analysis of companies ability to pay prevailing wages. So work with your lawyer and you will be fine.
Hey
you have any link to the memo?
Hey
you have any link to the memo?
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logiclife
02-13 07:18 PM
A lot of people, including me have lost faith in IV. They are not going to pay. We don't know what IV is working on and we don't believe it can do anything. The sooner IV accepts it, the better. I have seen this personally in talking to people and you can see the evidence with less than 300 people contributing. IV needs to produce results first.
Before you ladies jump on me with your (p)curses for personal attacks, read on.
IV needs to figure out other ways to generate cash if it thinks that would help. One way would be advertising on the site. I think IV has built this website well and it is an asset it needs to use NOW. I believe IV can charge up to $10,000 a day for advertising on the website. That would be $300,000/month or $3.6 million a year. Even $3000/day would result in over $1 million. That should not be very difficult to do.
A lot of people told us in Jan 2006, that IV will not survive. A lot of people thought that we wont be able to cross $10,000 mark. That includes myself. I did not think we would come this far in first week of Jan 2006. I hadnt met anyone else in core in person. I didnt know CIR will not pass in 2006.
Things turned out pretty good as you can see, as far as support, membership and contributions go.
As far as ads are concerned, I dont think we can generate more than 2000 a month in advertisement and its not worth it making the site look like a commercial outlet rather than a non-profit grassroots advocacy site.
Before you ladies jump on me with your (p)curses for personal attacks, read on.
IV needs to figure out other ways to generate cash if it thinks that would help. One way would be advertising on the site. I think IV has built this website well and it is an asset it needs to use NOW. I believe IV can charge up to $10,000 a day for advertising on the website. That would be $300,000/month or $3.6 million a year. Even $3000/day would result in over $1 million. That should not be very difficult to do.
A lot of people told us in Jan 2006, that IV will not survive. A lot of people thought that we wont be able to cross $10,000 mark. That includes myself. I did not think we would come this far in first week of Jan 2006. I hadnt met anyone else in core in person. I didnt know CIR will not pass in 2006.
Things turned out pretty good as you can see, as far as support, membership and contributions go.
As far as ads are concerned, I dont think we can generate more than 2000 a month in advertisement and its not worth it making the site look like a commercial outlet rather than a non-profit grassroots advocacy site.
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sweet23guyin
01-17 01:05 AM
Came across this
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Any one comment on these kind of plan?
Thanks always.
http://www..com/compare/result.php
Any one comment on these kind of plan?
Thanks always.
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zCool
01-31 11:02 AM
Those who are celebrating .. consider this.. your employer decides for any reason to not continue filing I-140 or decides to let you go in 6th yr.. earlier you used to have at least possibility of sub labor.. now you are basically straight out of luck.. Also if microsoft needed some genius from China or India to join their team and the guy obviously deserves special consideration due to business need and/or his talent.. they are stuck..! It's not good.. yes desi folks were selling and buying these but remedy is worse than the defect.. they could have made changes to rules to make it stringent and almost impossible to get but no reason to place such arbitraty deadlines etc.. if H1B and GC is geared towards desi consulting.. it's should not and will not exist in the long run..
Indentured servitude and middle-men agent type business model is not ideal for anyone including US economy..
Indentured servitude and middle-men agent type business model is not ideal for anyone including US economy..
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cpolisetti
04-18 01:30 PM
I don't understand why so many are not coming forward for contributions. It is just 25 dollars. This is way less than what you have to pay for EAD/AP renewal or nothing compare to if the applicant and spouse are able to apply i485 during the retrogression, then the spouses will get EAD faster and they can earn lot more than 25 dollars within an hour. In all respects this will be the best solution if we can accomplish this. It will be easy only when we are all united and behind such a wonderful group of IV members.
I also request everyone to post a message after you contribute. This will keep this posting on top and motivate more people to do the same.
I Have done my part of contribution .
I also request everyone to post a message after you contribute. This will keep this posting on top and motivate more people to do the same.
I Have done my part of contribution .
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saiimmi
12-12 09:36 PM
Paid membership will not benefit the cause of IV at all. IV is a volunteer organization and paid membership will not do any good. Better approach is to raise awareness and tread a fine balance in asking for contributions.
Look at NPR. (National Public Radio) It is a public radio service and it's expenses are mostly footed by volunteer members like those who contribute for IV today. I think the key is raising the awareness and realizing that results take time.
Look at NPR. (National Public Radio) It is a public radio service and it's expenses are mostly footed by volunteer members like those who contribute for IV today. I think the key is raising the awareness and realizing that results take time.
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gjoe
12-03 01:00 PM
The S/N ration can be made >1 by increasing the signal strength.
The noise can be cut off, but in this case the noise is what needs to be amplified and conditioned to make it look like Signal :)
How do you suggest IV 'forum' improves the Signal-to-Noise ratio?
Right now it's too noisy and is driving away determined members (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?p=199027#post199027)!
How do you know what I care about and not? I can give some famous examples of GC holders working for IV - Aman Kapoor founder member, Tamsen Mitchell (franklin) leader of South California chapter, and many more.
I may remain active if I feel the cause is worth spending my time, money and effort. Right now, a crowd of 25,000 tracking receipts and discussing mundane issues doesn't give me the confidence to say so. I have better things in life to fight for than a lost cause where the victims (most of them) wait for others to fight for them !
The noise can be cut off, but in this case the noise is what needs to be amplified and conditioned to make it look like Signal :)
How do you suggest IV 'forum' improves the Signal-to-Noise ratio?
Right now it's too noisy and is driving away determined members (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?p=199027#post199027)!
How do you know what I care about and not? I can give some famous examples of GC holders working for IV - Aman Kapoor founder member, Tamsen Mitchell (franklin) leader of South California chapter, and many more.
I may remain active if I feel the cause is worth spending my time, money and effort. Right now, a crowd of 25,000 tracking receipts and discussing mundane issues doesn't give me the confidence to say so. I have better things in life to fight for than a lost cause where the victims (most of them) wait for others to fight for them !
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swamy
11-19 02:19 PM
I thought SPCL too documented his lies very well. As I said earlier, some people are shameless and lack common decency - it's worse when they have a tv show to boot! They keep repeating discredited theories and lies ad-nauseum until the opposition tires out and gives in
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senthil1
04-26 04:42 PM
One of the abuse is to avoid paying tax.Some big companies are sending L1 persons out of the country after they complete 11 months(If L1 persons are staying more than 1 year company has to pay tax). Now L1 and H1 are having same type of of nature of work but L1 has so much undue advantages like L2 can work, No salary restrictions, Companies can avoid taxes in many circumstances with no restrictions in rules like H1b at all. No cap also.This is also some type of discrimination in the law. In fact L1 need to be capped than H1b as L1 is playing more role in displacing USA workers but many cases in H1b is creating more jobs by innovation.
M**f** ganguteli
I'm not anti immigrant. I'm on H1 (actually EAD with EB3 PD of Jan 2004).Almost got laid off with replacement by an L1 from TCS. Good for now for another 3 months!!
If you still think against me, i wish you get a situation where you might get laid off and replaced by an L1
I'm for reform for GC processing and I dont support the abuses because of L1s
No more discussions with idiots like you
M**f** ganguteli
I'm not anti immigrant. I'm on H1 (actually EAD with EB3 PD of Jan 2004).Almost got laid off with replacement by an L1 from TCS. Good for now for another 3 months!!
If you still think against me, i wish you get a situation where you might get laid off and replaced by an L1
I'm for reform for GC processing and I dont support the abuses because of L1s
No more discussions with idiots like you
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tonyHK12
04-20 06:41 PM
a special "Debate thread" (not fight :) ) where anything goes is probably not a bad idea at this point. where certain members who want to debate can be granted access
The constant hijacking of every thread is getting tiresome. :(
Its only the instigators and flamers, who would want that thread. Personal attacks should be banned on threads. Most people are happy just debating.
The person initiating or using provocation for a personal attack should be banned after a couple of warnings. The victim has no such restrictions and is allowed to retaliate as much as he wants.
The constant hijacking of every thread is getting tiresome. :(
Its only the instigators and flamers, who would want that thread. Personal attacks should be banned on threads. Most people are happy just debating.
The person initiating or using provocation for a personal attack should be banned after a couple of warnings. The victim has no such restrictions and is allowed to retaliate as much as he wants.
Lasantha
09-25 01:58 PM
Juist to prove the original posters point about IV being intolerant about different points of view and the trigger happy attitude of some members about giving a red dots just because someone else speaks his point of view - I got a very personal and abusive remark with a red dot just for my post above. Not that I really care about Red or Green dots. My GC journey is over. This forum helped me a great deal when I was waiting for my GC. Now I am hear to help others with what I know in their GC pursuit and help with any on going action items. Just wish some members here would grow up and learn to live and let live! :)
vina92
02-07 02:43 PM
This is a great point. Even if we get one time relief,that should suffice because retro might not happen in the future as there will not be 245si/195kH1bs. I hope one of the core group members might want to look at this. This will atleast counteract the exaggerated and bloated immigration numbers by the antiimmigrant groups.
It is just speculation that it will take 10 years or 15 years. Actually past 3 years atleast 50% h1 were used by TCS,WIPRO and similar companies. So those who are processing gc is less. But it may take some time to clear current backlog as we had 195k H1 cap till 2003. If 65k h1 cap is there then it will be 3 year waiting period for EB2 and 4 to 5 year for Eb3. People will speculate based on number of H1s. But their calculation is not including the number of people who are giving up and also many people are going back. But if they increase H1 then the situation may become worse. I think one time releif will be enough to resolve the issue for
next 5 years. But Skil bill is asking too much(May be for permanent resolution of
gc issue) and opposition is more as anti immigrants are quoting the numbers. Remember in 2000 the relief of recapturing previous few years did not attract
large opposition and passed easily. Simlarly if H1 increase also limited for 2 or 3 years that can be passed easily as we can convince Senators like Sessions.
But if we keep on asking so many numbers of H1 and Gc and also exemptions
for Master degree then we have to wait for CIR as this will have lesser impact
in numbers compared to illegal immigrants.
It is just speculation that it will take 10 years or 15 years. Actually past 3 years atleast 50% h1 were used by TCS,WIPRO and similar companies. So those who are processing gc is less. But it may take some time to clear current backlog as we had 195k H1 cap till 2003. If 65k h1 cap is there then it will be 3 year waiting period for EB2 and 4 to 5 year for Eb3. People will speculate based on number of H1s. But their calculation is not including the number of people who are giving up and also many people are going back. But if they increase H1 then the situation may become worse. I think one time releif will be enough to resolve the issue for
next 5 years. But Skil bill is asking too much(May be for permanent resolution of
gc issue) and opposition is more as anti immigrants are quoting the numbers. Remember in 2000 the relief of recapturing previous few years did not attract
large opposition and passed easily. Simlarly if H1 increase also limited for 2 or 3 years that can be passed easily as we can convince Senators like Sessions.
But if we keep on asking so many numbers of H1 and Gc and also exemptions
for Master degree then we have to wait for CIR as this will have lesser impact
in numbers compared to illegal immigrants.
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